General Discussion

cost of illegal offroading - pass this around to all

hagells — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:02:34 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmXGe9FBCE8

this is something that could really help people understand the high cost of going around gates!

anbody have friday the 9th off

4stgmby — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:04:06 GMT

i am hoping to find somebody who would like to go up above eagle cliff on friday. i am thinking up the 25 to 9300 and go up 9300. i have a place to park a couple trailers for the day.

or back up to Carson

or Sunset falls

or ......

Cabin Rentals for Sandlake.

Dominick — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:13:30 GMT

I found these rentals that I think are a great price. My family got one for Friday and Saturday night of the Sand Flea Rally. They are only about 10 minutes from Sand Lake.

http://www.shorepinerentals.com/

New jeep, new member

kenjo — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:05:47 GMT

Hello from Washougal! I just got my first wrangler (98 TJ) and joined this forum. I'm looking forward to joining you at meetings and rides (neojeeper).

Great 'scale' video.

Dominick — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:26:26 GMT

This is so well done!

http://vimeo.com/8306315

Engine Swap

GA4X4BRAT — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:48:11 GMT

Might be looking at swapping out my 2000 TJ 2.5L for a 4.0L, my 2wd Cherokee may be totaled just waiting for the final word. if the swap is worth the time and trouble. I've read the articles in the booksnow i am looking for the practical info.

Bumper and mud flap tickets

jeeptoyotaguy — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:25:38 GMT

I went to court and they reduced the fine from $275 to 50 bucks total.

New Facebook created.

Dominick — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:31:46 GMT

Please support our new Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vancouver-WA/Vancouver-4-Wheelers/311067220836?created Become a fan!

NP231 Rebuild Project.

Dominick — Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:38:23 GMT

So Karl and I are starting my NP231 rebuild this weekend. Wish us luck. I hope to have low range again before our next run.

bumper regulations

draggontrail — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:49:00 GMT

been trying to find regulations on bumper width can eneybody help

the officer last night said my bumpers have to go center of wheel to center of wheel

rubicon 2010

rockrawler — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:15:24 GMT

Anyone interested in rubicon? probably 1-2 weeks before 4th july. We can make it fri-mon or sat- tues. I know pnwj in close to that but july/aug are not as good on the con'. If interested, let's get it planned so i can get the jeep going again and put in for the time off.

let me know

dave

also the "trail run" page is not loading.

newbie

bentshaft — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:12:11 GMT

hi all,
I went to the meeting last night it was really nice to meet you all. im looking forward

to go wheeling with your club. i am also really interested in becoming a member.

Mark

club meeting tonite @ 7 pm smokeys pizza orchards

jeeptoyotaguy — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:44:20 GMT

Be there and bring cub dues!!!!!!for 2010!!!!

Lets go wheeling!

Ihatej33ps — Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:55:15 GMT

Anyone want to go wheel this coming weekend? I work till 2 on sat then Im free, looking to go somewhere thats legal. Maybe sunday???

Yacolt Burn 4x4 TRAILS ON THE WAY!!

hagells — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:37:36 GMT

4x4 TRAILS ARE ON THE WAY ! ! !

How The Idea Got Started...

In the beginning, this project started with 3 friends hanging out together working on their Jeeps. Three friends who were frustrated with having to drive such long distances (and pay ridiculous high fuel prices) to go 4-wheeling when there was a beautiful, massive forest right in our back yard - the spectacular Yacolt Burn.

So -- we set a goal, formed a club, created strategies, rallied the troops and never, never, ever looked back...

It Was a Dark and Stormy Night

The most difficult part of this journey by far was staying the course even when everyone who was supposedly "in the know" actually laughed out loud at us and told us that there was absolutely NO WAY we would ever get legal 4x4 trails in the Yacolt Burn. It had been tried time and time again and failed repeatedly. This project has been a long and stressful journey for the charter members of our club who engaged with this project over 2 ½ years ago. During the past 2 ½ years, our club members have invested well over 5,000 hours into meetings, clean-ups, forest watch patrols and educational efforts on the ground and via the internet.

We have made some wonderful new friends and partners (that was the best part), stepped deeply into more than one political pile of poo (that was the scariest part) and unfortunately made a few enemies along the way (that was the worst part). The craziest thing of all - the battles that we had to really armour up for were not with the environmentalists, not with the government agencies and not with the other user groups -- it was in our own sandbox - with other 4x4 enthusiasts (that is the sad part) . . .

Thankfully, due to the publicity of last year’s Cruise-In as well as the 2007 & 2008 clean up events we have recruited some new, very energetic members. We know that these new members care as much about this project as the founding members do and have been able to provide some much needed relief to the original members who have continually turned their lives upside down to make this project a reality. We even found some time to actually go 4-wheelin’ this year...

Get to the Good Stuff

It’s been a very long road, but we are happy to announce that we have officially received the approval from the Commissioner of Public Lands to move forward with building 4x4 trails in the Yacolt Burn.

We will still need to maintain some patience as we await the completion of the proposed trail design from the consultants (due early September) and following that we will need to wait for the SEPA (environmental impact) to run it’s course (October). We do not expect any problems from SEPA as the planning committee followed the environmental requirements to the last little detail.

The Challenges Still Ahead

The DNR has a very limited amount of funding to put towards this project – so almost every mile of trail that we want to build will have to be supported by fund raising efforts and we will then have to increase our level of volunteerism to maintain those trails.

Ready, Set, Go !

We expect to begin preparing existing trails that are already on the ground as early as November 2009. Our goal is to have at least 20 miles of 4x4 trails ready and open to the general public before the 2010 recreation season (opening May 1). We will work on construction of additional “challenging” features as weather, funding and volunteer hours allow. That should bring us up to a total of 25 miles of dedicated 4x4 trails.

Not Just for 4x4's . . .

Also included in this planning process is the addition of another 20+ miles of ATV and dirt bike trails being added to the existing 14 miles at Jones Creek.

Relax - It's a 10 Year Plan

Another hurdle we are experiencing is the loss of the NOVA funds (grant dollars) that would have provided funding for the campground facilities and trailhead at 4-corners. The estimated cost of this project is well over $2 million dollars. All of the fund-raisers in the world are not going to raise that kind of money. So – we will be focusing on building trails and small trailheads while we await the return of the NOVA funds. No worries here either though - this planning process has been based on a 10 year plan - that means we have 10 years to find the grant dollars to fund this facility.

In addition to the $1209.38 that was raised at last year’s Cruise-In, the members of Piston’s Wild Motorsports have raised an additional $319.63 bringing the fund total to $1,529.01. The additional funds were raised by club members who recovered hulk vehicles from the Yacolt Burn and recycled them for cash. The owners of those vehicles donated the titles to Piston’s Wild Motorsports.

At last night's "Hot August Night" event - we received an additional $54 in cash donations bringing our grand total to $1,583.01. ALL of those funds will go direcly to building motorized trails in the Yacolt Burn.

We Still Need Your Help . . .

Although $1583 is a great start we still need everyone's help to bring this dream of 4x4 trails in the Yacolt Burn to fruition. Please be sure to register for the forum so that you will receive up the the minute information about trail building activities - we will do our best to advertise and plan work parties in advance.

In addition, please join us for two very important upcoming events in September and October.

September 26, 2009 (Saturday)
7th Annual "Pick Up the Burn"
See additional information under the Club Events section
This is an opportunity for the 4x4 commuity to come together with the other user groups of the Yacolt Burn Forest and continue to build strong relationships that will maintain the high level of cooperation that has made this project possible.

October 4, 2009 (Sunday)
Piston's Wild Motorsports 4x4 Cruise-In
@ Woody's 4x4 in Vancouver, WA
This event is our primary fund raising activity that will provide the dollars needed to get a jump start on building 4x4 trails later this Fall. Bring your 4x4, bring your donations, bring your friends and bring your family - this is guaranteed to be a great time for everyone and an opportunity to celebrate the anticipation of LEGAL 4x4 trails in the Yacolt Burn...

For additional information about the activities of Piston’s Wild Motorsports Club please go to: www.pistonswild.com

Thank you again to all of the 4x4 enthusiasts who have supported our tiny little club in this monstrous effort - your contributions have been greatly appreciated by us all. We look forward to continuing to work closely with all of you on the building and maintenance of the Yacolt Burn 4x4 Trail System for many, many years to come.

We would also like to especially thank the staff from the Department of Natural Resources who have worked so tirelessly on this planning process to ensure that ALL of the interested user groups of the Yacolt Burn were integrated into the plan. Specifically: Brian Poehlein, Julie Sackett, Mary Coacher, Jessica Kimmick and our planning facilitator Walt Pulliam.

Of course the reason the planning process was such a success was because of the excellent representation in the room from all of the various user groups:

Joe McLoughlin (Jones Creek Trail Riders) - Dirtbikes / ATV's
Barbara Vertz (Cougar Area Trail Seekers) - ATV's
Bill Manbeck (Pacific NW 4-Wheel Drive Association) - 4x4's
Gary Collins (Back Country Horsemen) - Equestrian
Jon Brobst (Yacolt Burn Neighbor) - Dougan Falls Area
Phil Delaney (Lives in the Yacolt Burn) - Naturalist
Pat Campbell (WA Trails Assoc & Sierra Club) - Environmentalist
Jason Ding (Cold Creek Mountain Bikers) - Mountain Biking
Crystal Crowder (Piston's Wild Motorsports) - Multi-Motorized
Chris King - Non-Affiliated Multi-Sport Recreationalist
Darren Huddleston - Non-Affiliated Multi-Sport Recreationalist

In the spirit of cooperation, the individuals listed above continually searched for recreation solutions for the Yacolt Burn that would include the needs of ALL of the user groups while still maintaining the identity and integrity of each of the individual recreation opportunities in the forest.

Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions or concerns regarding the Yacolt Burn 4x4 Trail Project. I can be reached at (360) 606-1648.

Happy (really,really happy) trails,

Crystal Crowder
Club President
Piston’s Wild Motorsports
(360) 606-1648

The view of Mt. Hood from the location of the proposed
motorized trailhead and campground facilities at Four Corners.

95 YJ motor swap

JayV — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:39:27 GMT

Hello,

I am looking for a 95 YJ Wrangler engine wiring harness for a 6 cylinder and also looking for (not actual motor mount) brackets that bolt to the engine block and motor mount. Please give me a shout if u know where to get these.

What you'd like our Club to do

draggontrail — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:50:08 GMT

Please feel free to post your thougths on what you would like to see in our Club

or what changes you think would make us a better Club.

As new Club President

draggontrail — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 16:39:54 GMT

Like to wish everybody a Happy New Year and Great Wheeling

As most members know I am the new club president and i'd like to let you know what my goals are.

1) I'd like to see more members at our meetings.

2) Would like our club to be more active in supporting wheeling activities, such as we do with the Yacolt burn clean up.

3) I would very much like to know what you would like to happen in our club.

Please place this on the What you'd like our Club to do Posting.

4) I feel we need a Club Members only forum on our web site for posting club matters.

5) Would also like to see new Club member applicents.

6) And I also would like to see more enforcement of our rig requierments such as tow points F/R, shovels, high lift jacks and CB's

2010 Club Dues

mtn4wheeler — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:53:56 GMT

This is just a reminder that club dues are due at the January meeting. If anyone has a questions or will not be able to attend the meeting call me and I can meet you to take care of it.

Thanks, and have a safe and happy New Year!!

Marty

SNOW?

BSIEHL — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:53:28 GMT

does anyone know if larch has any snow yet?

Help?

Kara — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:18:36 GMT

So I need some help fixing my Jeep and getting it ready for the snow. The front driveshaft (which I have) needs to be put in along with the front gears.

I'm not exactly sure if that's all I need, I may need some kind of bearings.

Any help would be appreciated, this is all that's keeping me from runs...and I sure do miss them :)

Newbie help

1990YJ — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:05:54 GMT

Well not sure if this should be put here or not. I just got my first jeep it is a 90 YJ and need some stuff. It has a hardtop and is missing the back window and frame/ Need upper half doors ones that are rounded on the upper rear. I have a really nice Rifle to trade for the right parts. It is a Ruger MarkII 300SAUM in SS with a Nikon 3-9x40mm scope. I live in Olympia. Email briansolomon@comcast.net

MOAB closing? click the link to help

hagells — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:32:28 GMT

http://capwiz.com/amacycle/issues/alert/?alertid=14061961

Found this on a couple of sites and thought I'd post over here for some 4x4 votes

Keep Congress from closing more than 9 million acres in Utah
Contact your Representative to Oppose H.R. 1925!

Watch the hearing video on H.R. 1925 here!

The Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands of the U.S. House Committee on Natural Resources held a hearing on October 1 to consider H.R. 1925, America's Red Rock Wilderness Act of 2009. To read AMA's press release on the hearing, click here. This legislation -- which will ban off-highway vehicle (OHV) access to public lands to those who live and recreate in Utah -- was introduced by New York Representative Maurice Hinchey. To read his press release on H.R. 1925, click here.

However, not a single Representative from Utah is supporting H.R. 1925. To see the Utah delegation and Ranking Member Doc Hastings speak out against H.R. 1925, click here.

Specifically, H.R. 1925 would designate more than nine million more acres as federally protected "Wilderness," and directly affect the Moab, San Rafael Swell and Chimney Rock areas (to name a few) in Utah. These popular OHV areas represent some of the most important remaining OHV recreation areas in Utah, and are some of the most popular with responsible OHV riders. The proposed Wilderness designation would also make the land off limits to ATV riders, mountain bikers and horseback riders.

Coming on the heels of the recently enacted Omnibus Public Land Management Act, which closed over 2 million acres of public lands, this vast Wilderness bill will take away additional recreation opportunities currently enjoyed by local residents and visitors alike.

The AMA needs your help now to stop H.R. 1925. The fastest way to reach your U.S. Representative is to call them. You can find contact information for your elected officials by entering your zip code on AmericanMotorcyclist.com, clicking on "Rights," then "Issues and Legislation." Additionally, a prewritten e-mail is available for you to send to your Representative immediately by following the "Take Action" option and entering your information.

STOLEN 4RUNNER IN VANCOUVER!!

hagells — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:15:03 GMT

A 1985 4Runner was stolen this morning from Vancouver. License plate # 730 WDR. It is white with white tube bumpers. It has rollover damage on the left side drip rails and windshield. If you have any information about this 4Runner, please call the owner: Chaun (3605213397). Let's get this truck found and back to it's owner! TIA

this was posted on the PNW site 9-29-09

Thank you

mrpatches — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:32:35 GMT

Hey guys, i just wanted to thank you all for helping Cahri and our midgets with her jeep saturday, she called me around 11:30 and i was pretty stressed out knowing they where all in the woods with strangers and the jeep was acting up while i was stuck on the boat not being able to do anything...When i finally reached her she told me to relax because she was in good hands with you all, that made my day and i just wanted to say thanks for the hospitality and helping hands you all gave my family...

Looks like we have finally met a group of people that are down to earth and easy going.. I look forward to hangin out with you all, and eating some of that good food that my kids keep telling me i missed lol